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Richard Lawson: Yes. And I think I fear we will see further nastiness. Um, before we wrap up, David, um, I have to ask you a really important, maybe difficult to answer question. Do you think this is the most effective use of Katy Perry’s “Firework?”

David Canfield: To date?

Richard Lawson: To date?

David Canfield: I do. And I think that’s all I can say because there is another show coming up that may very well use the same song.

Richard Lawson: So has this out done Rust and Bone, Marion Cotillard looking at a whale.

David Canfield: Oh, oh god. Wow.

Richard Lawson: That’s the big competitor.

David Canfield: You brought that right back with force. Um, I don’t, I don’t, I mean, my love for Marion and Rust and Bone, I dunno if I can, it can top that.

Richard Lawson: It’s apples and oranges really.

David Canfield: It’s apples and oranges. And I think overall, and I’m I’m I know you guys talked about the soundtrack and we’ll continue to talk about the shows, uh, brilliant, uh, capturing of a very specific point in time. Um, but it, it is a perfect use of firework. Let me put it that way.

Richard Lawson: Well, it’s, it’s cause in Rust and Bone, which if people don’t know it’s a French film with Marion Cottillard, um, that’s worth seeking out. Um, Matthias Schoenaerts as well. Um, also worth seeking out always. Um, uh, you know, and this a sentimental moment. Um, but here, I think somehow the show, uh, director Michael Showalter uh, Alan Ruck, it taps into that show, there’s something desperate about that song. Like, like if it’s like William H Macy and Magnolia listening “To Dreams Can Come True,” you know, in his car or whatever. And it’s like that that should be an upbeat song, but actually in this context, it’s pathetic.

David Canfield: It’s, uh, not that I’m going to call Katie Perry pathetic, but it does feel like with the, with the lenses on, toward that moment in time, uh, the, an appropriate, uh, tonal balance for the Katy Perry soundtrack, because it’s Elizabeth Holmes. I don’t know.

Richard Lawson: Yeah. Imagine like psyching yourself up and like quoting, um, Katy Perry’s firework in order to get your company to invest in Theranos. Like, it’s just, maybe that’s just hindsight, but tragic.

David Canfield: Especially cause you really do have to psych yourself up to keep this going.

Richard Lawson: Well, right. Yeah. And like-

David Canfield: What better song to do that.

Richard Lawson: And, and like, yeah, yeah. And, and I don’t know, I feel, I feel, I do feel for, for Jay weirdly, uh, as he’s desperately quoting that song. And I don’t know it’s, uh- anyway, this episode has given us a lot to talk about and think about, um, so again, please email us stillwatchingpod@gmail.com. Um, next week, uh, we are going to be covering three shows. So we have episode three of Super Pumped, The Dropout episode five, and then the first three episodes of WeCrashed. So it’s going to be a big episode. We probably won’t be able to get too into the weeds on everything, but, uh, we will do our noble best. Um, please follow us on Twitter, Still Watching. I’m at @rilaws David, where can people find you?

David Canfield: Uh, DavidCanfield97.

Richard Lawson: This episode was edited and produced by Dave Gonzalez, and as ever happy investing. .

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